Sunday, May 29, 2011

Update on the ministry #1

Hey brothers and sister,

   This is just a quick update to let you guys know, that in the next coming weeks I will be posting these writings that the Lord has inspired. The word of God speaks about the pen of a ready writer, and as long as I can think back in my walk with Christ, this has been made quite clear to me, I am to have a pen and paper ready at all times, and within reach because He always has something to say. Jesus says to His disciples "What I tell you now in the darkness, shout abroad when daybreak comes. What I whisper in your ear, shout from the housetops for all to hear!" that is Matthew 10:27. So this is to keep everyone posted that YES the Lord has shown us things, He has taught us, He has molded us, so what do we say? Whatever He whispered in our ears, we are to share it with the dimming world so that our lights truly do shine in the darkness, we have not hidden these things, SALVATION REDEMPTION FORGIVENESS REMISSION OF SINS (yes that has to be in allcaps lol) because these are the key points in our lives. But there is more, not to diminish the value within scripture, but we have to get past the surface of just plain old John 3:16 for instance there is much more to that. We should explore why did He love the world so much? What does this mean NOW.
   The unfortunate aspect is, that prophecy has been pigeonholed into the genre of "end times" yes, the prophetic involves that, but what has God been saying for TODAY? If we could just get our eyes off of tomorrow, we have a now to deal with so we can be ready for tomorrow. I know that everyone wants to be the first to say something, to be a pioneer of sorts, to say WOW I said that before it happened, but where is God in all of this? We have not made room for His words to be spoken because we have been so focused on our accomplishments and our gifts that we do not know what He is saying for today.
  So, for the next couple of weeks, or as long as it takes and the Spirit continues to drill this in, the word will be "What is God saying RIGHT NOW", these things all affect tomorrow, but we are not going to focus on tomorrow or next year or 2012 or any of that stuff our focus is now. The problem that many Christians find themselves entangled with, is focus on all of this "end time prophecy" not that we are wrong or that these people are liars, I never want to cast blame on anyone, but a lot of this "end time" stuff is worldly and has nothing to do with what God has said! It's just our opinion! And what do we have to show for it? Anger? Rage? disbelief at the fact that our presumptions were not correct? God is much bigger than all of that.
  As the Spirit leads, so will I write!

William Thuman
Jesus Reigns.

Tuesday, May 17, 2011

That they might come to know Him

Paul wrote that he would wish himself to be accursed if it meant that his brothers and sisters would know Christ. He could not see why they would not know Him, it was agony. Worse than all the scars that he bore in his body over the beatings and pain that was inflicted by those same hands. Blood and sweat and tears are the price a man payed for the salvation of others, and Paul was also willing to pay that price.
Agony is not that which you can not have, or that which produces pain, real agony is knowing that there is hope, yet watching others fall for lack of knowing it. Watching others perish, although they could simply climb back on the boat and not drown, that is true agony. God is a God of such great mercy, and love, that has been given to mankind. He sent Himself, in Jesus, and died on that cross for us, God died on the cross for us. He suffered agony for us, while asking that we be forgiven.
 I have to speak personally here, but I know pain, I know struggles and I know death. If Jesus could sweat blood in the garden, He poured that blood  out because He had such hope, and fear that it He knew His Father was faithful. Some of us have not had faithful fathers and mothers, we have had unfaithful relationships and unfaithful friends and family members. People we were supposed to always be able to trust let us down, turned their backs on us and seemed to care very little, it was inconsequential.
Agony is watching someone turn, time and time again to the one thing that would destroy them simply because they do not understand that Jesus laid His life down, that He gave up His portion for us, agony is knowing you are going to die for people who will not care.
We have been betrayed and lied to, we have been let down and forsaken and left in the dark more times than we care to admit. But why? There is hope after all of this. When pride forces us to forsake each other, we have forsaken our God, and we have forsaken everything good that we could have for the imitation of good. An interesting fact in the world of coin collecting, the counterfeit coins are often the most prized and coveted. These are coins that were never put into production but a dye was cast, and someone in the mint decided to press a few for kicks and sold them later for large sums of money.
I would lay it all down, I would give it all up that maybe one, just one, would turn and honestly know the Lord, and see what He is all about. Agony is knowing that man has traded in the life for the lie. All He offers is life.

10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. John 10:10

There is no need for anyone to die alone, there is no reason for a person to live all alone in fear and pain and agony. Jesus took all of that in so that we could have abundance! This is not a sales pitch, the new car is not perfect, the man is never perfect. He is not trying to sell anyone a new car, or to bribe them into anything, or to trick them into becoming a fan of His on youtube or on myspace or to follow Him on twitter. He has no agenda like that, He does not want to take away all of your money, leaving you empty handed. He will never have children, and then abandon them to go and do His own thing, He does not rape and pillage, He has no hate. He's not like us.

2 Corinthians 1:5- For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds through Christ.

Turn from the destruction

I pray that this get's out to you, that it get's through to the deepest part of your heart.

I had a dream that I was walking through this high school, in some part of the United States somewhere, in a town I have never been to. As I walked I became aware that I had to use the restroom and so I made my way to the front of the building where there was this little one person restroom that was maybe only 4 ft. wide without  even a sink or anything in it. As I used the restroom someone suddenly opened the door and said "Oh, I'm sorry I just wanted to see if anyone was in here". And as the person walked off, failing to shut the door, I looked out the door reaching for the handle and I saw a group of young people, teenagers and kids standing around with cell phones out and cameras out looking up at something with exclamations of "oh man this is going on youtube" and so I looked over at what they were so excited about, and when I looked up I saw four tornadoes touching down to the earth, spinning violently and tearing through buildings. I realized that these four tornadoes (which were each distinct in color) were heading straight for us. So I started to yell at these kids to shut the door! And get inside! RUN, but they didn't hear me, and it was too late. These tornadoes hit, I could hear them, they sounded like 100 freight trains coming straight for us, the earth shook with the violent force of them. I knew that destruction was right on top of us, but it was too late, suddenly I could see chairs flying about, and mind you, I am still standing in this restroom, but there are big pieces of lumber and plywood crashing through the walls and I have now been lifted off of the floor. I could feel myself being slammed back and forth by the force of these storms and I wondered, what happened to those young people standing by the door?

Will you turn from the destruction? And find refuge in the arms of the Lord?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381398/US-storms-297-dead-thousands-homes-destroyed-tornado-outbreak.html

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110505/NEWS21/110505011/2275/RSS05

These articles are from the same time, one from the same week, of this dream. I have watched a trend unfold in front of my eyes, and all I ask is that we consider our position and our eternity. It is not my job to push religion or to condemn or judge, those who know me know that with my old lifestyle I would have no room to judge anyone in their lives. I know Who changed me, and it was not myself. I know that Jesus Christ is real, and that He is still performing miracles through us. But what is your stand? Believer or not, this question is equal to each of us. I have to ask myself that question everyday "What is my stand?" am I going to resort to the addictions and lifestyle of abuse that I was enslaved to? Believing that there is no point either way, and that I control my destiny? No, of course not that idea was stripped from me in the jail cell, I was not in control of that. But where is God in all of this?

Standing right in front of us all this time. He never left, we turned our backs.

Saturday, May 7, 2011

Say to the deep

There exists within man a secret place. For so long many have taken the instructions in Matthew 6:6 quite literally, so they have built special prayer rooms and have designated spots that they find are nice to go alone and pray in. But there is something more the Spirit wants to show us here. Now there is nothing wrong with all of this but our exploration is not in the realm of the seen, for so man would search out a place for solace and solitude to find that which is within him.
 Often Jesus went off alone to pray, we can read of times when He just slipped away and got off to the Father. Many instances, Luke 4:30 for example, it must have been that Jesus was surrounded by the mob, whether angry of just seeking. But for this purpose He was surrounded by angry religious types, the most dangerous mob there is, and they sought to end His life. It reads "they dragged Him outside the gates with the intentions of throwing Him off the cliff" with the rest of the garbage, THEY WERE GONNA KILL HIM.
  We also read of the apostles being in this situation, an angry religious mob, mad as usual because their beliefs are being challenged. They are in peril, being dragged off in the hands of the merciless mob. 2 Corinthians 1:8-10 here is yet another stunning example of condemned men looking death in the face, yet living, rescued from death's cold gaze and grip. Now how was it that all of those times when these men were taken outside of the gates, i mean taken completely out of any form of security at all, but somehow they lived?
  I go back to my original statement, there is a place within man where the door of the spiritual simply needs to touch the physical side. It swings open when man releases his hand from gripping the door knob, or his made is made to be cut off. These moments are times when man knows full well that he is going to die, and as far as anyone else is concerned these men are already dead and there is no possible hope for them. It is written that the Spirit of God will give life to our mortal bodies, that we will be strengthened with all might in the inner man, that is the core of it. Men who know how to take their hands off the doorknob welcome the Lord into dine with them for they have learned that the Father rewards with abundant life in that secret place where no flesh may glorify in His presence. These men know that to be dragged outside the walls by the angry and bloodthirsty mob, the men who have torn their flesh and clothes and cut them with biting words and spitting breath will not be harmed in the inner man. This is some real crucification of the man of flesh. In these moments men must trust in their God for it is He Who shall deliver. I can imagine the angry mob carrying Jesus and then the apostles on their shoulders yelling "death! death to them!", yet the Lord is shouting back "grace! grace be to them!".
   Zechariah 4:6-7, this is the word of the Lord speaking of Zerubabel the man who would oversee the rebuilding of the temple of the Lord. "Have no fear when they drag you outside the gates and you are dragged out of your comfort zone! I AM WITH YOU!", says the Lord Almighty, "I am near you!" says the Lord, "I am YOUR GOD and you are my people!" says He. Many men scream for blood when the truth shakes them up.
 Back to Ephesians 3:16- Paul was immediately referring to the tribulation that had come to him so many times before. In prayer, there is access just as Paul knew and was now writing to the Ephesians that their prayers for him, themselves, their families, and those abroad had so much more impact than they could ever have known. In v.11 Paul says that this is "according to the eternal purpose that was manifest in Jesus" and in v.12 that this purpose is this access and boldness that is permanent, immediate and demands attention.
  When one accesses the temple of God, the first thing you must know is that temple is in you , okay yes then you realize that, then why is it in you? How? Whatever place you choose to pray in will someday not be there, like when Elijah found himself in the wilderness by the brook Chebar, that would someday dry up! His time there would be over. But there is a place within where the streams never dry up, and the "bread of life" the presentation bread of the eternal manifestation of Christ in His holy temple, will never perish. Jesus is STILL trying to get us to stop looking at these worldly things, He used something so basic, so vital to human existence as bread to illustrate the importance of the truth that lies within this very elemental yet powerful force of spiritual nature.
  The eternal place of god is seated within you regardless of whether or not you should choose to exercise this boldness to access the eternal within. No matter what state a man could be in he still has this place within  reserved for God and the voice still echoes from without as God calling His men from outside the gates , calling them to let Him in so He may come and be seated in His rightful place!
  A life of sin robs on from this boldness to access, there are holes in your testimony. This sin is abrasive and degrading to the Spirit of man, it causes nakedness and allows hi, to realize his nakedness as it was with Adam and Eve after the "apple incident". Mankind is in a state of perpetual nakedness. The Spirit within man the part that is separated and distinguished from the soul and flesh has been stripped of it's vestments and the articles of the temple have been desecrated.  Sin taking advantage of this keeps men in such a state. When the spirit of man which is permanently altered and robbed of it's dignity lay in this state in the dark the devil has his way with it.
  Man denying God access remains naked and helpless to the accuser and any attempt to clothe himself result only in more pain and suffering inflicted at the hands of loss. The crushed head of the serpent with it's busted fangs continues to gnaw away at the flesh injecting his poison into the vein further ravaging the spirit. All it needs is to tear the skin slightly and it's venom is in the blood stream and causing fatal calamity if not  for the Blood.
  Now here is the point in man, where for lack of direction and understanding feels it is necissary to reserve a place for Tobiah within the temple.
  Nehemiah 13:7-9
 The name "Tobiah" means "goodness of Jehovah", now we know of study and of reading of Nehemiah that Tobiah was anything but the goodness of Jehovah since he meant to rob the people of the goodness by setting himself up as "an abomination that causes desolation". This abomination has from the very beginning sought to set itself up within the temple after the sin has done it's work on the vestments like moths in a linen drawer and further seperating man from God is still it's goal. After man has done his own work denying access of the King to His courts a type of reverse affect happens and is an imitation of the goodness of Jehovah, the devil deals in counterfeit.
  When we first get saved we learn that we are a new creation and we go through a process of becoming that new creation then we learn to enter His gates and furthermore we see that without Him we are helpless. Now this subject is in itself a very deep thing it is almost difficult to not just dive right into it, but we will leave it as it is. You know what you have experienced.
  Now when I say that this  "Tobiah" is a reverse effect,  the truth is just that. The abomination will seek to get it's foot in the door it will seek to set itself up within the temple anywhere it can, does not matter if it is just the storeroom once it is nin it seeks to be worshipped.  Even worse that this should be in the storeroom right before the entrances to the inner courts or the place of worship since every time one should try to come into the presence of God this abomination whispers to them and distracts and tries to entrap them in it's own "temple". Paul wrote about this in Romans 7:23, he knew that within all of us this war is raging.
  It may not appear to you that this is war, but if it keeps us from going to that eternal place while in dire conflict damage will occur and possibly a life of abundance lost, or maybe even a life or lives depending on the state of things. These Tobiahs have kept many people from really knowing Him. There is a veil over the hearts of man that keeps him from going into the place of the eternal. Nehemiah saw this  we are given an example of this boldness  here, Nehemiah goes and throws Tobiah along with all of his things out and the room is cleansed. You see just as we were strengthened to prosper in the Lord into everything we might set our hearts to do it might seem in this reverse imitation state that good things are always happening.
  It might seem we don't need God, we have cut Him off and look at us! We have a new car we have a nice house, a beautiful significant other and everyone lusts after us. All of those things listed in this sense of  "self achievement" might as well be other idols, you might as well have a little shelf in your new closet with red candles, pentagrams, and little wooden figurines of the things that you worship. By any means the Tobiah abomination seeks to get you to resist the will of God.
  James 5:1-6, James gives a seething rebuke here of these actions, but what is it that needs to be seen? These are some of the actions that one imitates from what is within himself. The man who has set himself up within his temple to worship the abomination will only result in desolation. Let's look back as that word briefly, first in Webster's and then in original tongues:
Desolation in Webster's is - 1) Greif, sadness, loneliness, devastation, ruin, barren wasteland
Desolation in Strong's - Shamam, to stun, devastate, stupify, make amazed, astonishment, also to be made destitute, destroy, make waste, wonder.

People worship this because on the outside it clothes you with the finest apperal silk and fine linens, it places a crown in your head and puffs you up, it intoxicates you on your own riches and miseries, leaving the inside stripped and naked. When the spirit is stripped and naked man will never be satisfied, worship of these things causes barrenness the only reproduction is the curse of sin and death the inheritance is the same. And so many are following this today. There is a river that everyone is jumping in, it looks good to them because they have wander lust and their eyes are glazed over with drunkeness and it wil cause you to do things that you will later regret. The water looks good but it is filth and sewage and rotted blood filled with every vile disease and stench of rotting corpses that is all heading for a waterfall plunging into jagged rocks and acid fire.

"What we are now saying, is that place within us will now be opened and that we will see the truth. We decalre by the Holy Ghost, that we recieve and hold onto the victory over this illusion of life. We declare that we are spiritual beings that have eyes to see and ears to hear. We declare that our God is mighty, our God is holy, and our God is above all other gods. VICTORY IN JESUS FOR THIS GENERATION"

All of this wandering does not have to be so.

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Prophecy Concerning a future

The seed will come forth, there is a future:

"But I heard a man say regarding it ' Yeah, I know, but I had this terrible dream, like this one little pistachio nut was cutting a hole into my window, I saw it as I entered the trailer'"

So I asked the Lord:
"Lord, what do these things mean?"
And the Lord said:

The seed will infiltrate and be restlessly involved until a great expansion happens. It's the color of the pistachio, the green, like the green tree planted by many waters, the youthfull-ness, the  "ready-to-go-ness".  It's the small speck of green invading the world of the mundane and turning it upside down just as it was with the apostles in Jerusalem after Pentacost. The house of cards comes tumbling down.
It is like the perfect whirlwind
It is like a perfect storm
Cascading down
And rapturing their hearts
Moving them one
Place to another
Taking them from home "in the pit" where they have made their dwelling, dry and grey and saturating them with something new today. The fear of dreams
The Freddie Krueger like fear of dreams
Even he would be swallowed up in light
Even he would be consumed when he infiltrates and tries to steal the dreams of a future. There was not yet a future here, the seed was not yet there only the promise of  a future it had yet to arrive now it has Infiltrated and it will saturate the current state of affairs until everything has been tinted to see the unseen until everyone has been thrust into the realm of the unknown and out into the region beyond the border of experience. THE EXODUS OF YOUTH.

Monday, May 2, 2011

Removing Labels

REMOVING LABELS, LOOKING PAST DENOMINATIONS
 
18 And it happened, as He was alone praying, that His disciples joined Him, and He asked them, saying, "Who do the crowds say that I am?"
19 So they answered and said, "John the Baptist, but some say Elijah; and others say that one of the old prophets has risen again."
20 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Peter answered and said, "The Christ of God."
When Jesus asked this, the revelation that Peter had was very profound, it is a revelation that the church needs today. The answer was not "People say that you are a baptist preacher or that you are this denomination or that denomination", denomination did not exist. This conversation between Jesus and His disciples happened right after the miracle with the loaves and fishes, when Jesus said to His disciples "YOU give them something to eat", Jesus also said "I am the bread of life" and at the end of Matthew He told Peter "Feed my sheep".
For far too long people have only been concerned with denominations and doctrine and who has the right theology, thinking that if I am a good enough this or if I am a good enough that, if my doctrine is sound enough, if I know more than this person or that person. We have fed people the food of doctrine and denomiation for too long now, no wander they are starving! I hear people debating over which denomiation is better, or who has all the answers or who is really saved or who is really practicing the faith truthfully, we talk a lot about churches that have fallen under the lies of false doctrine, when really the only true doctrine is Jesus Christ.
I like what Paul said to Timothy in
"Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,"1 Corinthians 10:12Paul also said this to Titus:
"but shun foolish questionings, and genealogies, and strifes, and fightings about law; for they are unprofitable and vain."I hear brothers and sister arguing about denomination, and arguing over theology and beliefs that they have. No wander so many of us live in such fear for our salvation, we have been fed the grand lie, "that denomiation saves you" or " theology saves you". What have we had entrusted to our care? Was it this teaching by man? Or is it the authority under heaven and earth that Christ Jesus had? I say the only way to truly see God for Who He is is to get rid of reliance on fleshly beliefs and to remove the labels that we have placed on ourselves. Jesus did not come claiming to be this or that, He never even said "I am a great Jew, now follow me!" He said " I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE", what do we have of our own? What kind of personal realationship is it when we are fighting over our denominations and arguing over who is right and who is wrong? Who is a heretic and who isn"t? Jesus said "I have come that they may have life abundently", where is the abundance in denomination? Where is the abundance is certain theology or doctrine? If there was ever anything we needed anymore than Jesus, some seem to believe that it is found in this "vain controversy". We are still mimicking our old selves, we have taken what we have seen in the medis, and what we have heard all over the world, and placed it into the Church, into the Body of Christ! That is the grand "heresy", that is the greatest lie. The word says "If any man be in Christ Jesus, behold there is a new creation", this new creation is something that has never existed before, it is an entirely different being altogether. But we still hold onto divisions, and striving over our new "laws", well you might say "Brother, these men were arguing over Judaism, not Christianity" like arguing over one is better than the other. It is worse to argue over the Body of Christ, how is it better to argue over our faith?
We all want to draw nearer, and we are wandering why we can't seem to fully grasp the truth, or maybe there are many of us who think that because we are of a certain denomination that we don't have to worry about ourselves and always look at that other denomination that we see as being full of lies and going against the truth of the word of God. Who made us the judge? We have strayed so far away from the personal relationship, we are still fighting for position and still fighting for recognition and still eating each other up, we are stumbling.
Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.
While our eyes are fixed on Jesus we will we will not stumble:
24 Now to Him who is able to keep you[
a] from stumbling,b] 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! Galatians 5:11-15
And to present you faultless
Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, But when we are looking elsewhere, we are looking to ourselves for guidance and looking to each other for comfort:
11 And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12 I could wish that those who trouble you would even cut themselves off!
We are still looking to the circumcision in the flesh, not of the heart. If we see our denominations as being the best, or the right, are the most true to the word of God or this or that, we are consuming each other. My prayer, is that we would destroy all of the labels that keep us from Jesus, that we would utterly cut off from ourselves the old man, let the circumcision be of the heart, and not look to our outward selves and what we believe in our joint doctrine as being better than this one or that.
It is the need of every man to have a personal relationship with Christ, it is the need of every Christian to have fellowship with Him, to have communion with Him. But we for so long have mistaken that as some sort of set of rules and regulations and proper procedure, we tried to make the freedom and liberty of Jesus into a military operation and we tried to turn it into a fast food like chain of denominaiton and doctrine.
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life— 2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us— 3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things we write to you that your[
And who was at the beggining? In the beggining the word was woth God, the word was God, the Word made flesh. Dwell on that for a while, as you consider what there might be in your life that you might need to get rid of while you come to Him. Unless you are happy to live the facade, then I pray for you. I was once myself happy to live in that same lie, I felt a comfort there, but it was only a lie, because what would seem to be a comfort to me was eating me alive and I was blindly following the blind. There was not a single ray of light or hope there, it was only darkness and misery followed by more pain and addiction and more misery. I saw that what I thought to be some sort of truth was really the farthest from it and there seemed to be no way back. That is until I saw that I really needed to repeant from believing so many of the false things that I was trained to believe.
So many people have gone throught a "boot camp" like process of the baby walk of Christianity, and they will forever equate all of the things that they learned then with solid truth. It is a shame. I encourage all of those who wish to see past the label, who wish to see into the eternal, to look up a writing by T. Austin Sparks called "Spiritual Sight", until then, God bless!
Jesus Reigns
a] joy may be full. 1 John 1:1-4

13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."[
1 Timothy 6:20
Luke 9:18-20

The Reproduction of Christ

THE REPRODUCTION OF CHRIST
 
Jesus Christ reproduced. I know, you are shaking your head right now. You have probably heard of the stories that maybe Jesus physically had children and maybe you have read or have seen "The DaVinci Code". Well, this might come as a hard pill to swallow, but Jesus really did reproduce!
Now to those of you, who have figured this out and are still reading, know this, reproduction is not solely physical or sexual. Reproduction is mostly SPIRITUAL. The world has gottn this mixed up, as is usual, they think that you can only reproduce brothers and sisters and children by sexual intercourse. Wordlyness has been trying to explain something that it wants to believe of in Jesus, bringing Him down to an earthly level, which we know He isn't at! Praise God. Yet as usual it only has a speck of truth in it. It's like is someone were to come to America and try Chinese food, it has the idea of Chinese but has been changed to fit the culture, it would be totally different in the country of origin. And since we are talking about Christ's spiritual reproduction and spiritual seed, not a physical repoduction and a physical seed we should listen with our hearts and not to what our minds are now telling us.
The words "reproduction" and "intercourse" have, along with the word "Love", been degraded into a complete corruption of what God meant for us ETERNALLY. I would like to go back to the beginning, if I may, and say this to you, God did not create man first. That has been passed around churches for so long that people just simply agree with it as being factual, instead of what was really being said. Most think Adam was walking around in a physical garden with a physical tree that could probably still be located. This is not the case, it was a purely spiritual place, if so, why then when they left the garden would it need to be guarded by an angel? Could Adam and Eve have simply snuck back into it? Were there gates there that they could look through longingly hoping to get back in somehow by some sort of works? If that was the case God would have said "Now Adam, you are going to have to work off this debt, you owe me such and such for this magic apple you and Eve just ate, now when you are done you can come back inside" as if.

27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."John 19:26-27So many people have only blindly considered the account of Adam and Eve, that God made man, then when man was bored and lonely, He made Eve. No, that is not what it says, read that again, Adam was both Adam, AND Eve, it says "He created him both male and female.
The miracle that happened was spiritual reproduction. When God said "It is not good for man to be left alone", this was true, it was not good that man be left by himself without knowing how to reproduce, once again this was not yet a sexual concept, this was spiritual. Adam knew Eve, he recognized her as being a part of himself when he said "This is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh", he knew her spiritually, but Adam didn't know her sexually until after they were in the flesh.
Now that this has been established, let's take a look at
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, "Woman, behold your son!" 27 Then He said to the disciple, "Behold your mother!" And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.Galatians 4:19Now how could this be that Jesus said this? Was Jesus speaking figuratively? Was He being metaphorical?or was He being quite literall. Well, we have heard of spiritual mothers and fathers, sometimes we say "Oh this is Nancy, my spiritual mother", but in the back of our minds we know that she is not really our mother per se, we have a mother that birthed us physically. This figure of speech probably came from this account in John, but that is not all that Jesus was saying "Oh I want you guys to feel ok, now you have someone to talk to". Did John just find out that he was really adopted? No, once again we are looking through our flesh and not the spiritual. We have been taught the only real way that one can be a son to someone (spiritually sons and daughters are the same there is no distinction) is that "Well honey, mommy loved daddy, and then mommy and daddy made babies", this is not really the case. Yes to bring forth children this physical act needs to happen, but that is not the genuine article, that is not simply how God sees it.
How did Paul sate these words in Galatians?
my little children, for whom I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you!
The world could come up with all kinds of things to say about that, "was Paul really a woman?" or how about this little bit of worldly thinking "was Paul really gay?". Oh the flesh, what subtle ways your creep into the minds of God's children and corrupt what the Father desires us to see!
The whole point of our walk with Christ, is to be with Him as He leads us back to the garden, I know you have heard this, but we should be in a place of communion with the Father, to "walk in the cool of the graden with Him". If this is the case, than how many of us can claim to be spiritual beings? If so then know that the reality that we see with our eyes is not reality at all! It is brought forth through parental training, school, education, experience and discipline. But what did Paul also say about that?
But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.
All of these things are of no eternal value, they benefit this life and should be cherished in this life since they will not come with you into the spiritual realm. I am not saying to drop out of school, it's just looking with our eyes, or as Des Walters put it "our imaginations, man's own personal Disneyland" will not explain what is really going on behind the scenes.
Now I started by saying "Jesus Reproduced" and this is true, spiritually. There was no use of physical reproduction on the cross because what appears to be death is really life, and what would appear to be life is really death to all of mankind.
Look once more at
Now, what happened immediatly after this? Jesus died, He not only gave up the ghost, but He gave up the seed, the birth, being the firstborn of many bretheren He died giving birth to those brothers. The soldiers came and pierced His side, the same side and place where God took the rib from Adam to pull Eve from him. When the spear peirced His side, the water broke and blood came forth and was spilled, just like when a mother gives birth to a baby.
So let the people searching for the physical lineage of Jesus keep searching in vain for something that has been standing right in front of them all the while, and you can step forward and claim that lineage, that heritage. This is not a figure of speech, and the world will be confounded, they will be seeking something that was created in "Disneyland" a prepackaged presupposed idea of what the lineage of Christ is, and who it is, supposing there to a a single family that has lived in anonimity for thousands of years.
From the body of Christ was birthed His bride
Came forth from the stabbing of His side,
Blood was spilled the whole earth mourned
Yet Just as He died, He rose again
Transformed
Kings of kings in all glory see
The Son of Man died for you and me
Jesus Reigns.
John 19:26-27, Jesus reproduced there, it was not sexual it was spiritual. He said to John, "Behold your mother" and to Mary "behold your son", and it was so from that day forward. If it had been a figure of speech Jesus was using, then John would have probably just checked in on Mary every once and a while, or maybe he owuld have bought her groceries or done some chores for her. But Jesus was not just worried about His mother and wanted her taken care of, although that is true enough. Jesus just planted the seed into man, He impregnated the spirit of all of mankind with those words, John and Mary stood at the foot of the cross as ambasadors for all of mankind the power that was present is still present in us today, it is no different in you and I than it was on that day, in that year when John and Mary stood there looking up at the naked and bloody broken and bruised body of Christ on the cross. Jesus was reistablishing what was true in the garden before the fall, that spiritual reproduction was not just of flesh and blood.
Philippians 3:7
Genesis 1:27-28